Brett Favre Again Defines Real Packers Fans

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Brett Favre retires

So Brett Favre will get his number retired by the Green Bay Packers and all that. Great. During the announcement today, Favre was again quick to point out who the real Packers fans are.

He’s consistently done this, knowing there are Packers fans who still don’t think much of him. That is, say crap like this.

It’s as if he’s trying to shame people into loving him again. “You’re not a real fan of the Green Bay Packers if you do not love Brett Favre. Now bow before Lord Favre.”

I’ve got news for you. This is fucking bullshit. It’s the same fucking bullshit he’s been perpetrating for years — putting himself above the organization, talking down to the fans. It’s the very reason some of us still don’t fucking like him.

Not because of his laundry list of misdeeds. Those could be forgiven. Because of his continued stance that he is above everyone and everything.

Listen fuckface, you don’t get to define who real Packers fans are. I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done.

Personally, I’ve been on the fence about this whole thing. I hated Favre for the shit he pulled, playing for the Vikings and all of that. Time went on and I softened.

Favre is one of the greatest players in Packers history. He helped revitalize the franchise in the 1990s. He didn’t do it alone, as some would have you believe, but he was a key cog in making that happen.


Let him come back and have his moment. Welcoming him back into the fold is the right thing to do. Blah, blah, blah.

Frankly, I’m not soft anymore. I cannot abide by this shit where Favre (or the organization, for that matter) thinks they can tell people how they should feel or how they should react.

It’s the same type of me-first arrogance that made this whole situation unravel in the first place.

You want back in my good graces? Time is no longer the answer.

Show some humility for once and beg, you piece of shit.

I am a real Packers fan and I’ve got a message for Brett Favre.

Go fuck yourself. Again.

About The Author

Monty McMahon is one of the founders of Total Packers. He is probably the most famous graduate of UW-Oshkosh next to Jim Gantner.

63 Comments on "Brett Favre Again Defines Real Packers Fans"

  1. J

    Oh stop it. You’re nothing but a butt hurt little twat. This whole website is nothing but one giant butt hurt entity. If you cannot accept what happened and move on, not to mention celebrate what Favre did for us for 16 years, then you don’t deserve to be a Packer fan. So, promptly fuck off.

        • Howard

          Archer: Shows how much of a hypocrite you are. You do not think the comment from Wolf is refined; however you have no problem with J’s comment. I do not agree with everything Wolf says but all Wolf was doing is calling out that prick J. J sounds just like Favre and maybe you. If you do not agree with or love him then you are not worthy to be a Packer fan.

          • Archer

            Howard – No one said I agree with J’s comments, full through. You are making assumptions. However, suggesting someone kill themselves because they aren’t in agreement is pretty ridiculous, don’t you think?

            So, before you call someone a hypocrite, you should probably not insert your own interpretation into what they say. Try doing that at work, if you have a job, and see how that works out for you.

          • E. Wolf

            At Archer,

            You condescending little twat, subjective interpretation is an invariable part of reading any text, even a basic text children’s text like Barney the Dinosaur or Sesame Street.
            As for the Drain-o bit, I stand by it full stop. My outrage at these Favreists who demand absolute lockstep adoration along with their false idol is an OUTRAGE that obliges me to wish them ill-will and bodily harm. See that article of mine where I address the issue of such turncoats specifically.
            If you think about it, it is really no different than sincerely wishing someone would go to hell.

          • Howard

            Archer: wanted to make sure I got back with you but I was at work. You are correct I made an assumption based on some facts as follows:

            1. The first post was J who is totally off base with his attack including but not limited to his warped idea that if someone does not accept Favre then they are not a true Packer fan. I also call bullshit to that.
            2. The second post was Wolf. I believe Wolf would not have even posted at that time if not rightfully offended by J’s post. I have said on previous subjects I do not agree with everything Wolf says. I do agree with many of the things Wolf says about Favre. I agree with all the things Wolf says about those wearing Vikings gear or abominations of such. I might address the subject in a different manner; however we all have our own opinions and personalities.
            3. Dave was the third post and it appears Dave must not always agree with Wolf but did so in this case for good reason.
            4. You were the third post. You took two jabs at Wolf. The same type I have seen you take before. In addition you also took jabs at Dave as Dave agreed with Wolf.

            So the question is why didn’t you take some jabs at J. My conclusion (you may call it an interpretation) is (1) you must agree with J’s ignorant comments or (2) you want to totally ignore the crap J is spewing because it does not offend your HIGH standards or (3) you just want to attack Wolf if he is right, wrong, or some place in between. From my perspective that is hypocritical of you.

            Although it is none of your business I have been blessed with a very good job at the same place for 35 years +. Thank you for asking. So I have answered your question(s). So what part of J’s comments did you disagree with?

            By the way I do agree with Wolf you are condescending. I hope you are not as condescending to your fellows workers or friends. It will not create any lasting relationships.

        • E. Wolf

          Don’t talk down to me you insufferable swine. And in any case such sadistic musings like having someone you do not like drink liquid drain-o has nothing to do with class. Just ask the good Doctor Lecter. One of the classiest, most debonair gentlemen depicted in fiction.

    • Chad Lundberg

      Cause fans shouldn’t express their opinions freely?? This site just says it like it is, if you can’t handle reality, then leave.

    • You Enjoy Myself

      We have different opinions. What do you care? I think you are butt hurt that we didn’t cave in and just stop caring about it.

  2. TyKo Steamboat

    Maybe for old-times-sake we should announce we will retire his number…then waffle…then postpone it 3 years until 2018.

    Then lets all message pictures of our cocks to Monty…

  3. Chad Lundberg

    Everytime, EVERYTIME he talks about this, it’s like he HE JUST DOESN’T GET IT!!!!!

    Words like “maybe i should know when to walk away”, “It was my fault”, “Aaron Rodgers is a great player”. It’s like he’s trying but again, HE DOESN’T GET IT!!!

    HOW ABOUT YOU’RE SORRY??? How about words like REGRET, that you thought wrong, that you should never have done what you did because you were being a diva???

    Seriously, this clown just doesn’t GET IT!!!

    It’s not just what he did, it’s that he shows NO REMORSE!!!

    • Deepsky

      Agreed. Favre needs to say he’s sorry the TRUE FANS for going to Vikings, even if he makes up some crap like he wanted to win another Super Bowl.

      He’ll never do it though. Too many dependent rednecks in his entourage won’t advise him of this.

  4. the real jeff ircink

    just like a woman – one minute you’re for the retiring of the number then you’re not. makes great headlines here though, huh. and E Wolf – did you ever send the petition in? or did you just shit can the idea? #4 – Packer HOF and number retired. i win.

      • the real jeff ircink

        yeah – me. because i didn’t bash Favre when he left GB and played for other teams, while the majority of the posts/commenters here did. so, yeah, i win. and all the other Favre supporters. we all win.

        • Tucson Packer


          Sounds like you supported #4, and by connection, the team(s) #4 went to play for.

          I support the Packers, of which NO individual is greater than.

          I guess that’s where you along with “all the other” #4 supporters and I, differ.

          Who do you support now?, Some High School down South?

  5. CO Bob

    If the organization really gave a shit they would poll the stockholders, poll Facebook, poll the related websites (not likely this one because we’re too frank here), and have some folks ask around at family night…etc. Just get the pulse, and move forward based on collective opinions from a variety of sources. That way we could all get imperical data on if this is a serious issue with the fan base, or if it’s just a few butt hurt folks. I’m not insulting anyone’s feelings here. I’m just saying that I don’t really know the collective fan base’s position.

    I guess even if I had the info…it wouldn’t change anything that’s GOING to happen with regards to his ceremony, enshrinement, and plaque of his gold plated poop by every restroom at LF.

  6. GBslacker

    Some long-winded speeches by management.
    Some jumbotron video.
    Some countrified comments.
    Some spin-doctoring.
    And the applause — that will go on too long, awkwardly so.

    Afterward, the swarm of reporters & camera crews asking: “How does it feel to be…”


  7. Daniel

    What makes me happy is all you cunts have to look up there for their rest of your butthurt lives and see that big number 4 sitting next to Starr, Nitschke, Canadeo, Hutson, and White’s numbers in Lambeau. Forever.

  8. Howard

    Daniel: actually it does not bother me and I believe most that Favre’s number will be retired. What bothers at least me is I do not need someone to tell me how I should react.

    It is amazing how all you who support Favre must resort to calling those who disagree with you names. It shows a sign of weakness on your part. The other thing is both you and J refer to butt hurt. Not wanting to call anyone names, just a question, is that a condition both of you developed from being Favre’s bitches for so long?

    • the real jeff ircink

      are you kidding me, howard??? what have all the Favre haters on this site – admin and commenters – done BUT call Favre and his supporters names since he left GB.

      and you “lecture” daniel – and then you end with the “favre’s bitches” line. ;) that’s good. such the hypocrite. who’s the real bitch?

      • Howard

        Are you for real Jeff? If you look at any of my Posts I do not call any Packer fan a name unless they attack another Packer fan first with some of the foul crap Daniel and J spew. The one exception was Wolf and I was man enough to apologize immediately afterward. I do not know what sort of warped vendettas guys like J, Daniel, or any others have but it is bullshit as we are all Packer fans if we love, hate or are someplace in between on Favre. Calling other Packers fans the vulgar shit J and Daniel did yesterday is bullshit and I called them on it. Now I am man enough to apologize for what I said. Are any of you others man enough. We will see who are the hypocrites.

  9. Tom

    I’ve got news for you. This is fucking bullshit. It’s the same fucking bullshit he’s been perpetrating for years — putting himself above the organization, talking down to the fans. It’s the very reason some of us still don’t fucking like him.

    Listen fuckface, you don’t get to define who real Packers fans are. I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done.


  10. Tucson Packer

    Well, wonder how long till the #4 memorial gets trashed by somebody.

    But they wouldnt be a true Packer fan so yea….

  11. Deepsky

    When Favre is home with his family watching reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard or Nascar, cooking up something I typically would mow in my yard, or randomly firing shots at some overgrown southern rodent, you know all his cousins, many of whom are married to each other, are all advising him as to the disposition of True Packer Fans.

  12. Howard

    That is were you are wrong deepsky they do not need to waste bullets on rodents. They pick them right off the road and cook um up.

  13. Vijay

    I for one, still get it. Brett’s legacy was created by fans, players, announcers, media, celebrities, etc. If anyone else was in his shoes you would have felt betrayed by the organization to some degree too. To some degree you may have even sought revenge against them. It’s human nature, it’s called the “Selfish” gene and ALL people have it (Richard Dawkins).
    Sure, Brett let his celebrity status and God-like adoration get to his head…but who cares, I would have too and I know that I’m not alone!

    He was a major factor/ contributor in YOUR franchise resurrecting itself from a nothing burger. Just imagine the alternative had Ron Wolf never traded for him and paired him with Mike Holmgren. I think Holmgren was more power hungry and greedy about his departure and needs than Favre ever was.

    He (Favre) just couldn’t get along with the new regime. Look at the way Elway rolls out the carpet for Manning (after Indy let him go in a much more classy manner) for an example of how a franchise should treat a legend of the game. Sure, Favre wavered and played a few head games, who cares!? Not every person or athlete reacts the same to these types of rare situations.

    I never lost my support for Favre and I’m biased because I remember how he got me excited to watch football every Sunday. His child-like enthusiasm on the field was infectious and following his soap opera was equally exhausting and entertaining in it’s own right. Whatever you might think of him, he holds most of the #1 records in NFL History to this day and some he might hold possibly forever.


    • the real russ letlow

      I think the alternative might not have been so bad. Wolf drafted Mark Brunell and Matt Hasslebeck, two very good, successful NFL QBs. With Holmgren as HC, we still would have had a real good shot at multiple SBs.

      • Deepsky

        Brunell would have done just as well as Favre. In 1996, Brunell lead a two year old franchise with a terrible offensive line and an average defense to the AFC Championship game where they lost to the Patriots. By the late 90s, Brunell was easily outperforming Favre.

        Favre had the #1 defense and the best punt return guy in the history of the game. Brunell, who single handedly almost took the Jaguars to the Super Bowl in their second year, would have taken the Packers to the Super Bowl.

        • Phatgzsu

          That is revisionist history-you have no idea how well Brunell would have performed. Brunell had teams equal in calibre to Favre’s and he never won a SB. BTW, Brunell had one of the best D’s in football for a number of years, including the year they beat the Donkeys.

          You really think Desmond Howard is the best retun man in history? You have to be kidding. I can think of half a dozen better ones off the top of my head: Hester, Hall, Sayers, Billy “White Shoes” Johnson, Neon Deion, the dude from the Redskins.

    • Abe Frohman

      You’re missing the point. No one would begrudge Holmgren or Favre for moving on. It’s THE WAY they did it that leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Holmgren wanted more power. I would assume in some circles he made this clear. The organization said “we’re quite happy with Ron Wolf, thanks all the same” and so Holmgren left. What did Favre do? He waffled over retirement for about 12 years, give or take, then….he ACTUALLY RETIRED. I listened to his damn speech.

      All that happened is well chronicled. I don’t need to rehash it. All I can say is that probably no one here would have the animosity that they do if he’d played 3 years in NY and retired as a Jet. Or, am I totally off base?

  14. the real russ letlow

    it is kind of ironic that in ’08 the ol’ dickslinger said publicly to/about Ted Thompson, “Let me worry about my legacy.” or something close. Well, he certainly took complete charge of that! At this point in time one thing is for sure, once the poop is out of the chute it ain’t going back in, no matter how many times you try to define “real” Packers fans.

  15. PackAttack

    Brett is a proper piece of shit. Go ahead retire the number but the true fan base should not have to celebrate it or feel nostalgic about what he did before he shit on the whole organization. People forget that Ted offered him 2 million a year just to be a part of the organization. Just don’t be a dick and we will pay you, he decided to be the dick.
    I feel nothing for the man. I hope the stadium just stays silent. No boos, no cheers, just awkward silence for something that used to be but is no longer. Fuck that dude. Long live Green Bay Packers!

  16. K.L.

    Looks like Monty is drinking the E. Wolf koolaid.

    On a side-note, you all sound like a bunch of hot-headed, loudmouth idiots.

    Favre deserves the credit. If you don’t like it, that is too bad. Nothing you can do about it. So get a life and move on.

  17. Arcturus

    I wonder what Bart Starr thinks of this dug addicted, dick-pic sending, adulterous prima Donna? Didn’t he have to have his own shower even at Lambeau? Doesn’t really fit the Packer mystique now does he?

  18. John

    jesus, are any of you Favre hatters over 18? 18?

    He was part of the salvation of the Pack after the long drought.

    He played for another team for a few years. A bit of bonus time for him. get over it

    • E. Wolf

      More lies and falsehoods. He did not play for just another team. He played for the MINNESOTA VIKINGS, our most hated rival.

  19. kato

    Brunell would have done just as good as favre? Are you fucking stupid? They would have won multiple super bowls? OK dipshits. Favre was coming off seasons of 33, 38, 39, and 35 TD passes along with three straight mvps. At that time quarterback had ever had four straight 30 TD seasons and three MVPs period much less three in a row. But yeah, let’s roll with unproven mark brunnel after Favre rolled out those four gem seasons. Holmgren, mariucci, Andy Reid, and john gruden all watched brunnel practice on a daily basis but thought well we will go safe and stick with favre. Idiots. You know what guys? Let’s make sure wendont make that same mistake again. Let’s get of Rodgers now and make tolzien the starter! I think we can win multiple super bowls with him! LETS DO IT!

  20. the real jeff ircink

    the #4 – forever retired and displayed in the ring of honor for all Favre haters to see. priceless.

  21. Howard

    It has always been a foregone conclusion that Favre would have his number retired. It would be disrespectful to Ron Wolf to not do so. It would also be disrespectful to Lambeau field to boo any former player who won a championship or Super Bowl. I for one, if there would not boo Favre. I would remain silent with my face in a paper. On the front page center would be Favre throwing his interception to the saints in the NFC championship game. Above would be Favre throwing the six playoff Int’s to the Rams. Below would be Favre throwing the four playoff INT’s to the despicable Vikings. On either side would be Favre throwing up the wobbling duck overtime losing INT’s to the Giants and the Eagles. Not sure were to put the picture of the three playoff INT’s to the Falcons. On the back page I would put that phony sack Favre gave up to Strahan. It shows Favre’s true character After Holmgren and his father were no longer in his life. A fake.

  22. Nurseratchett@work

    Every time I try to walk away, you pull me back in….

    Fuck yourself, Lord Farve.

    Here’s one for you–True human beings don’t immediately stop their charity help for Wisconsin residents with breast cancer when the Pack doesn’t welcome Brent’s ass back from another un-retirement. That’s right–Deanna’s charity STOPPED serving women in Wisconsin when the Lord of Dick Pix went to the Jets.

    Some humility, you pig. The truest of fans were the ones who’s hearts were broken when someone they idolized turned out to be as big a piece of shit as so many other pro-sports divas….

    • Tucson Packer

      Yup, all of us who trusted #4 and to see his back turned in this ^ and so many other ways are suckers.

      Well, Id say the ones who still idolize this one ego-centric “man” are the true suckers but then again they are more fans of #4 boy, not our Packers.

    • E. Wolf

      I was not aware of that Nurse Ratchett. I wrote some additional articles that may interest you as well. Of course certain trolls have to come question our loyalty for not pandering to this in completely shameless fashion.

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