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		<title>By: toolkien</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-37560</link>
		<dc:creator>toolkien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stone cold thread, but anyway....

People just don&#039;t seem to grasp that the hatred of Favre isn&#039;t based on that he wanted to still play and he went somewhere else, it&#039;s based on the years of bellyaching and ultimatums and trying to dictate to the team how to conduct its business (player retention, coaches, free agents to sign) which was all white washed as &quot;waffling&quot;. If Favre had trouble making up his mind and made a wrong decision, that would be one thing. Trying to be the de facto GM, &quot;retiring&quot; which was apparently only more game playing posturing, and then only &quot;committing&quot; to reinstatment after the Pack front office complete its off season cycle (including allocating Favre&#039;s salary cap) and headed off on vacation. Favre simply didn&#039;t &quot;retire too soon and only wanted to come back&quot;, his retirement was a continuance of childish behavior and had decided (after Thompson drafted two QB&#039;s) to gain his release to stick it to Thompson. As this article says, Favre could only motivate himself based on hatred and negative emotions. He no longer could simply try and be the best QB for the Pack he could be, he had to do so only from the Dark Side. It led him burn his legacy.

To be clear, my hatred didn&#039;t coalesce until a watershed moment - in 2009 when Favre was being interviewed post 2008 Jet season, and touched on what McCarthy said about Favre not being of the right mindset to continue playing, and that it was Favre&#039;s hatred of Thompson at the center of that mindset, what EXACTLY was the center piece to Favre&#039;s inability to forgive Thompson, and Favre said OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, it was when Thompson drafted two QB&#039;s and &quot;closed the door on me&quot;. That was it. ALL THE 2008 DRAMA AND PAIN was due to Thompson not quarduple checking with the RETIRED Favre who he should or shouldn&#039;t draft. Favre, some we learned from the classless Greta interviews, wanted to dictate player retention (Whale, Rivera), who should be coach (Sherman- because Favre didn&#039;t want to have to learn a new playbook, Mariucci -well, because he was a buddy), which players to sign in free agency TWICE (Moss, a Bus Cook stable mate), and NOW, FROM RETIREMENT, Favre wanted to dictate THE DRAFT. And when Favre, some odd reason, was denied being the de facto GM, he decided to wallow in his hate and use it to direct his behavior. Favre HATED FIRST. And he is now, in perpituity, reaping what he sewed. Thompson was simply doing his job the best way he knew how, and Favre HAD THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL for he Quarterbacking job through the entire off season. But he never committed. He only &quot;committed&quot; after his cap space was allocated which would force the Packers to release him (which was defused when Goodell gave the Packers an extra week to find a place for Favre to go via trade). And all because FAVRE HATED THOMPSON. Long story short regarding HATE - FAVRE STARTED IT FIRST.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stone cold thread, but anyway&#8230;.</p>
<p>People just don&#8217;t seem to grasp that the hatred of Favre isn&#8217;t based on that he wanted to still play and he went somewhere else, it&#8217;s based on the years of bellyaching and ultimatums and trying to dictate to the team how to conduct its business (player retention, coaches, free agents to sign) which was all white washed as &#8220;waffling&#8221;. If Favre had trouble making up his mind and made a wrong decision, that would be one thing. Trying to be the de facto GM, &#8220;retiring&#8221; which was apparently only more game playing posturing, and then only &#8220;committing&#8221; to reinstatment after the Pack front office complete its off season cycle (including allocating Favre&#8217;s salary cap) and headed off on vacation. Favre simply didn&#8217;t &#8220;retire too soon and only wanted to come back&#8221;, his retirement was a continuance of childish behavior and had decided (after Thompson drafted two QB&#8217;s) to gain his release to stick it to Thompson. As this article says, Favre could only motivate himself based on hatred and negative emotions. He no longer could simply try and be the best QB for the Pack he could be, he had to do so only from the Dark Side. It led him burn his legacy.</p>
<p>To be clear, my hatred didn&#8217;t coalesce until a watershed moment &#8211; in 2009 when Favre was being interviewed post 2008 Jet season, and touched on what McCarthy said about Favre not being of the right mindset to continue playing, and that it was Favre&#8217;s hatred of Thompson at the center of that mindset, what EXACTLY was the center piece to Favre&#8217;s inability to forgive Thompson, and Favre said OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, it was when Thompson drafted two QB&#8217;s and &#8220;closed the door on me&#8221;. That was it. ALL THE 2008 DRAMA AND PAIN was due to Thompson not quarduple checking with the RETIRED Favre who he should or shouldn&#8217;t draft. Favre, some we learned from the classless Greta interviews, wanted to dictate player retention (Whale, Rivera), who should be coach (Sherman- because Favre didn&#8217;t want to have to learn a new playbook, Mariucci -well, because he was a buddy), which players to sign in free agency TWICE (Moss, a Bus Cook stable mate), and NOW, FROM RETIREMENT, Favre wanted to dictate THE DRAFT. And when Favre, some odd reason, was denied being the de facto GM, he decided to wallow in his hate and use it to direct his behavior. Favre HATED FIRST. And he is now, in perpituity, reaping what he sewed. Thompson was simply doing his job the best way he knew how, and Favre HAD THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL for he Quarterbacking job through the entire off season. But he never committed. He only &#8220;committed&#8221; after his cap space was allocated which would force the Packers to release him (which was defused when Goodell gave the Packers an extra week to find a place for Favre to go via trade). And all because FAVRE HATED THOMPSON. Long story short regarding HATE &#8211; FAVRE STARTED IT FIRST.</p>
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		<title>By: Pack66</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-37355</link>
		<dc:creator>Pack66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Iltarion..you are a piece of shit...and deep down, you must know it to be AROD and TT&#039;s little asslicker and so full of hate...

Favre had that asshole Sherman to deal with who couldn&#039;t even get a college team to a winning record. 

Favre went to two other teams and had success...something I highly doubt Rodgers could do from year to year...

Rodgers is a fucking game manager with the best WR&#039;s in the league...If Favre would have stayed in GB, he would have had a SB or two by now as well....

Rodgers can&#039;t win the big game by himself..he has to have everything go his way, or he falls apart. You will see as the talent starts to decline on the Packers over the years...AROD&#039;s WR&#039;s are making him look better than he is..

Packer fans who hate Favre are the most pathetic, human beings on the planet....that&#039;s why it&#039;s going to be so cool when the Packers finally come down to earth and lose in the playoffs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iltarion..you are a piece of shit&#8230;and deep down, you must know it to be AROD and TT&#8217;s little asslicker and so full of hate&#8230;</p>
<p>Favre had that asshole Sherman to deal with who couldn&#8217;t even get a college team to a winning record. </p>
<p>Favre went to two other teams and had success&#8230;something I highly doubt Rodgers could do from year to year&#8230;</p>
<p>Rodgers is a fucking game manager with the best WR&#8217;s in the league&#8230;If Favre would have stayed in GB, he would have had a SB or two by now as well&#8230;.</p>
<p>Rodgers can&#8217;t win the big game by himself..he has to have everything go his way, or he falls apart. You will see as the talent starts to decline on the Packers over the years&#8230;AROD&#8217;s WR&#8217;s are making him look better than he is..</p>
<p>Packer fans who hate Favre are the most pathetic, human beings on the planet&#8230;.that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s going to be so cool when the Packers finally come down to earth and lose in the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: BB</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-23680</link>
		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe the dude lives in Oregon and he doesn&#039;t have an NFL team to cheer for, so he&#039;s a fan of Favre. It&#039;s only football. Get a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe the dude lives in Oregon and he doesn&#8217;t have an NFL team to cheer for, so he&#8217;s a fan of Favre. It&#8217;s only football. Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-23664</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How are you a die hard Vikings fan, if the only reason you supported them was because of Favre? I guess you were a die hard Jets fan as well.  I think it&#039;s crap how people like put one player over the welfare of the entire team.  You would rather have the Packers appease Favre&#039;s ego by giving him everything he wants, then by building a championship caliber team through the draft.  
That&#039;s essentially what happened in the Mike Sherman era, instead of building for the future, the Packers kept getting free agents to make Favre happy, and the Packers always made an early exit from the play offs.  
Enjoy watching the Vikings lose for the next decade, thanks to your boy Favre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are you a die hard Vikings fan, if the only reason you supported them was because of Favre? I guess you were a die hard Jets fan as well.  I think it&#8217;s crap how people like put one player over the welfare of the entire team.  You would rather have the Packers appease Favre&#8217;s ego by giving him everything he wants, then by building a championship caliber team through the draft.<br />
That&#8217;s essentially what happened in the Mike Sherman era, instead of building for the future, the Packers kept getting free agents to make Favre happy, and the Packers always made an early exit from the play offs.<br />
Enjoy watching the Vikings lose for the next decade, thanks to your boy Favre.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-23640</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is crap. i was a packers fan for most of my life..but a brett favre fan for ALL of my life. when he got traded to Minnesota i became a die-hard Vikings man. You people are crap for the way you treat the man who gave you the greatest seasons of Packer football. SKOL VIKINGS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crap. i was a packers fan for most of my life..but a brett favre fan for ALL of my life. when he got traded to Minnesota i became a die-hard Vikings man. You people are crap for the way you treat the man who gave you the greatest seasons of Packer football. SKOL VIKINGS</p>
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		<title>By: Sol</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-23627</link>
		<dc:creator>Sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dislike Favre because for four years straight i  did everything in my power to go to the last game of the year to ensure i was there to see Favre play for the last time.  Drove 10 hours each time slept in my vehicle in January only to have Favre take a big steamy dump on the fans and team after he didn&#039;t get his way and get handed his starting spot after RETIRING ON HIS OWN ACCORD.   Its not that i hate him but i I lost a lot of respect for him.  Still all will be forgiven when he puts on the Green # 4 and comes back to Lambeau]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike Favre because for four years straight i  did everything in my power to go to the last game of the year to ensure i was there to see Favre play for the last time.  Drove 10 hours each time slept in my vehicle in January only to have Favre take a big steamy dump on the fans and team after he didn&#8217;t get his way and get handed his starting spot after RETIRING ON HIS OWN ACCORD.   Its not that i hate him but i I lost a lot of respect for him.  Still all will be forgiven when he puts on the Green # 4 and comes back to Lambeau</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-23614</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see not trading Favre to the Bears or Vikings due to PR concern, but they could&#039;ve traded him to the Lions and nobody would&#039;ve cared. IMO Could be wrong on that, but who cares about the Lions? The fact that they wouldn&#039;t even trade him to the Lions makes me think they were afraid to play against him.

Shoot, they could&#039;ve traded him to any other team in the NFC except the Bears and Vikings for that matter. How could PR hurt them if they&#039;d done that? Instead, they trade him to an AFC team. 

True, the Packers beat the Vikings twice last year. No disputing that. But the Vikings did win the first 2 games, so it&#039;s a tie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see not trading Favre to the Bears or Vikings due to PR concern, but they could&#8217;ve traded him to the Lions and nobody would&#8217;ve cared. IMO Could be wrong on that, but who cares about the Lions? The fact that they wouldn&#8217;t even trade him to the Lions makes me think they were afraid to play against him.</p>
<p>Shoot, they could&#8217;ve traded him to any other team in the NFC except the Bears and Vikings for that matter. How could PR hurt them if they&#8217;d done that? Instead, they trade him to an AFC team. </p>
<p>True, the Packers beat the Vikings twice last year. No disputing that. But the Vikings did win the first 2 games, so it&#8217;s a tie.</p>
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		<title>By: iltarion</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/08/13/brett-favre-everybody-hates-me/#comment-23608</link>
		<dc:creator>iltarion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 00:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I seem to remember we played against Favre twice last year, and we kicked his ass both times, including a 31-0 complete fricking embarrassment. So, not exactly sure what we were allegedly so afraid of. 

Trading Favre outside the division was more of a PR concern, then anything else. 

It is the Viking fans and their ilk who should be really bitter about the whole thing. If McCarthy and TT don&#039;t have the balls to stick with A-Rodge, he could be a Viking right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I seem to remember we played against Favre twice last year, and we kicked his ass both times, including a 31-0 complete fricking embarrassment. So, not exactly sure what we were allegedly so afraid of. </p>
<p>Trading Favre outside the division was more of a PR concern, then anything else. </p>
<p>It is the Viking fans and their ilk who should be really bitter about the whole thing. If McCarthy and TT don&#8217;t have the balls to stick with A-Rodge, he could be a Viking right now.</p>
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		<title>By: BB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which makes you a pretty big loser. You either have to say you hate Favre because he was such a great QB it pissed you of that he didn&#039;t play for Green Bay anymore, or you have to say he was old and sucked and you don&#039;t care. But you can&#039;t have it both ways. You can&#039;t say he was old and washed up, AND you have an obsessive hatred for him. It makes no sense, even though every obese, illiterate Wisconsinite thinks it does. Regardless, the fact that Thompson shit his pants at the thought of having to play Favre twice a year and traded him to one of the worst teams in the league behind his back tells you all you need to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which makes you a pretty big loser. You either have to say you hate Favre because he was such a great QB it pissed you of that he didn&#8217;t play for Green Bay anymore, or you have to say he was old and sucked and you don&#8217;t care. But you can&#8217;t have it both ways. You can&#8217;t say he was old and washed up, AND you have an obsessive hatred for him. It makes no sense, even though every obese, illiterate Wisconsinite thinks it does. Regardless, the fact that Thompson shit his pants at the thought of having to play Favre twice a year and traded him to one of the worst teams in the league behind his back tells you all you need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: iltarion</title>
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		<dc:creator>iltarion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony, you are living in the past. It is unhealthy. The only place Brett will be proving anyone wrong now is the golf course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, you are living in the past. It is unhealthy. The only place Brett will be proving anyone wrong now is the golf course.</p>
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