And, getting your ass kicked twice, away and at home, to the division leader I believe counts as losing the division badly. As in you had absolutely no chance of winning the division. (P.S. If Brett Favre threw for 7 TDs and zero interception and got sacked zero times the Vikings would have– Oh wait, thats EXACTLY what happened and donald lee didn’t catch that pass and the Packers DID lose. The Packers were down both games and got their ass kicked, get over it. lol, gonna start that IF bs. IF the Packers had a good team, they wouldve won. That’s true. Good job.)

Dude, your considering each season from after the season happened. They were all disappointments. The Packers failed to live up to expectations each year and have done nothing since “Brent” left. End of story.

And yeah, its true, that is why they play the game, but since if the Vikings win again youre just gonna whine “oh but if the packers did this, we wouldve won, whaaa whaaa!!!” it doesnt even matter. The Packers had all of the players you just named last year and still lost twice. The Packers arent a good team. Get over it.

MM and TT are terrible, I hear the train acommin!!!

Predictions on the Pack last year ranged from finishing 1st to 3rd behind Chicago and Minnesota. I don’t remember everyone around here predicting a division title. We were 6-10 the prior year after all.

Lost the division badly? The Pack was one win against Minnesota from winning the division. I’m not sure how finishing one game behind a team is losing “badly.” If you say so. Yeah, the Vikes won both the match-ups, but both games were winnable in the 4th quarter for the Pack. Frankly, if Donald Lee catches a ball on 4th and goal, the Packers probably win the division last year.

The Packers went 11-5 and made the playoffs last year. You don’t need injury excuses when you do that. All the people who just like to bitch can be negative and say how that isn’t a successful season because of an OT loss in the playoffs, but I disagree. Considering that was our QB’s second season as a starter, I would consider that a very successful progression.
Anyone remember Brent’s second year as a starter? The Pack went 9-7. Yeah, we made the playoffs, thanks to Yancy Thigpen, and even won a playoff game, against D-Troi, before going to Dallas and being summarily dismissed.

TT’s philosophy is the same as in Pittsburgh and Indianapolis, the two model franchises in the NFL, who make NO moves in free agency. GB is built for long term success. Minnesota is trying to finance a new stadium. It is a totally different deal.

All this talk and yet the Pack is 3-3 and the Vikes are 2-3. Maybe Viking fans should be the ones doing the complaining. I agree that on paper, the Vikes should beat the Pack by 10 unless Brent stinks up the joint, but that is why they play the game. If the Pack has Grant, Burnett, Barnett, Finley, Tauscher, and a healthy Matthews, I take the Pack by 6, and Vegas would have the Pack by 3 to 4 points too. I’d put money on it. That’s the difference that injuries make.

MM is a meathead, but he isn’t going anywhere whether we all want to bitch endlessly about it or not. In 4 seasons, he has one losing season, which was the year after losing a HOF quarterback. No, he and TT aren’t going anywhere. Deal with it.

And Chitter, you my friend, are a stud. And guys, just for the record, I never ever said A-rod was a bad qb. I just said he wasn’t at the unbelievably high level you all were pimping him to be and that he had a lot of work to do before he could be considered a good qb in the league (Posting good regular season stats doesn’t make you a good qb, ever heard of Matt Schuab?). But my main point was that the management and coaching were going to ruin Rodgers’ development, as you can already see he doesn’t know how to win games. Not yet, at least.

Iltaration, I’m sorry, but did you just say the UNBIASED Media? Alright there champ. You just be sure to leave that bib on when you eat any messy foody.

And yes, you’re right, the expectaions were high (exactly like last year when the Packers were projected to win the NFC North and Arod to win the MVP) and they were obviously too high of expectations. That’s literally what overrated means. When you’re projected to win the NFC North and go deep into the playoffs, losing the NFC North badly to the Vikings and failing to win a playoff game is an underachieving season. And the year before that, taking a team that just went to the NFC championship to a 6-10 record is, again, underachieving. (Especially when all that was lost was that washed-up P.O.S. Brent, right?)

The Packers use injuries as an excuse every year, but the bottom line is that in 6 years Ted Thompson has won only one playoff game with deep playoff projected teams and didn’t hesitate to fire Mike Sherman after that 4-12 season when the Packers were also ravaged by injuries. There’s no more excuses, it’s time for Thompson and McCarthy to take their circus act elsewhere. I hear the train acommin!