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		<title>By: Mike Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10237</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 04:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This website... And just about everything is whiney bullshit. Haha... Such trash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This website&#8230; And just about everything is whiney bullshit. Haha&#8230; Such trash.</p>
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		<title>By: billyschwills</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10214</link>
		<dc:creator>billyschwills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like this article got ripped off...love the GB Press Gazette, but you been plagiarized, son!

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100926/PKR07/100926040/Mike-Vandermause-column-What-rivalry-Packers-Bears-acting-downright-friendly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like this article got ripped off&#8230;love the GB Press Gazette, but you been plagiarized, son!</p>
<p><a href="http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100926/PKR07/100926040/Mike-Vandermause-column-What-rivalry-Packers-Bears-acting-downright-friendly" rel="nofollow">http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100926/PKR07/100926040/Mike-Vandermause-column-What-rivalry-Packers-Bears-acting-downright-friendly</a></p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10202</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. I absolutely hate to bash a Packers great, but Larry McCarren is not a very good color commentator.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I absolutely hate to bash a Packers great, but Larry McCarren is not a very good color commentator.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10186</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[O, and by the way, I miss Jim Irwin and Max McGee like crazy. Oh my....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, and by the way, I miss Jim Irwin and Max McGee like crazy. Oh my&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10185</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You think the Rodgers-Cutler Mutual Admiration Society was bad? You should have heard the comments by Cutler and Martz about each other during the preseason and during Week 1 (Lions). Jeeeeez, why don&#039;t those two blokes just get a room (and don&#039;t forget to play safe and use condoms)! Disgusting. I&#039;m sure Halas and Lombardi were BOTH spinning in their graves. 

But the sad sack Forrest Gregg Packer teams of the 1980s had nothing to do with the the long, slow demise of the Bears after their 1985 team won the Super Bowl. Mama&#039;s boy Michael McCaskey took care of that. The McCaskeys so feared the growing power of the football people who built that team in the early 80s that they ran the Bears football brain trust (Jim Finks, Vainisi, the Tobins,et al.) out of town as soon as they could after winning their court case against the Mugs Halas branch of the family over the George Halas estate. It was Mugs Halas who talked George into letting go of control, bringing in Finks, and letting Finks and his people build the team. Finks himself actually resigned from the team that he built just after the court case was over (and just before the Bears Super Bowl year) because he must have seen the handwriting on the wall. Why else would he toil for almost 10 years to build something, only to leave just before the fun part? He knew he would be out because he was Mugs Halas&#039; guy. Vainisi was next after the Super Bowl. Then eventually both of the Tobins. It took a few years for such a great team to fade away, but fade they did. I&#039;m sure the McCaskey amily were relieved when Ditka did his meltdown in 1992, so they could finally have all over their control back, with little McCaskeys running all around the front office. Michael McCaskey taught at Harvard and wrote a book about management. But seeing the hash he made of the once proud Bears organization, culminating with the laughable fiasco over the botched hiring of Dave McGinnis as coach after Wannstedt, I am more convinced than ever that those who can, do, and those who can&#039;t, teach (and those who can&#039;t teach, teach gym). I myself knew that the rules had just changed when I saw Michael McCaskey hoist a Super Bowl trophy that he had made absolutely no contribution to winning.

Packer fans should most of all consider themselves lucky to have the ownership structure that the have. After 50 years here in Chicago watching the know-nothing nepotistic offspring of franchise founders like George Halas ruin once great organizations because of their fear of losing control (see also Bill Wirtz and what he did to the Blackhawks), I hope you appreciate what you have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think the Rodgers-Cutler Mutual Admiration Society was bad? You should have heard the comments by Cutler and Martz about each other during the preseason and during Week 1 (Lions). Jeeeeez, why don&#8217;t those two blokes just get a room (and don&#8217;t forget to play safe and use condoms)! Disgusting. I&#8217;m sure Halas and Lombardi were BOTH spinning in their graves. </p>
<p>But the sad sack Forrest Gregg Packer teams of the 1980s had nothing to do with the the long, slow demise of the Bears after their 1985 team won the Super Bowl. Mama&#8217;s boy Michael McCaskey took care of that. The McCaskeys so feared the growing power of the football people who built that team in the early 80s that they ran the Bears football brain trust (Jim Finks, Vainisi, the Tobins,et al.) out of town as soon as they could after winning their court case against the Mugs Halas branch of the family over the George Halas estate. It was Mugs Halas who talked George into letting go of control, bringing in Finks, and letting Finks and his people build the team. Finks himself actually resigned from the team that he built just after the court case was over (and just before the Bears Super Bowl year) because he must have seen the handwriting on the wall. Why else would he toil for almost 10 years to build something, only to leave just before the fun part? He knew he would be out because he was Mugs Halas&#8217; guy. Vainisi was next after the Super Bowl. Then eventually both of the Tobins. It took a few years for such a great team to fade away, but fade they did. I&#8217;m sure the McCaskey amily were relieved when Ditka did his meltdown in 1992, so they could finally have all over their control back, with little McCaskeys running all around the front office. Michael McCaskey taught at Harvard and wrote a book about management. But seeing the hash he made of the once proud Bears organization, culminating with the laughable fiasco over the botched hiring of Dave McGinnis as coach after Wannstedt, I am more convinced than ever that those who can, do, and those who can&#8217;t, teach (and those who can&#8217;t teach, teach gym). I myself knew that the rules had just changed when I saw Michael McCaskey hoist a Super Bowl trophy that he had made absolutely no contribution to winning.</p>
<p>Packer fans should most of all consider themselves lucky to have the ownership structure that the have. After 50 years here in Chicago watching the know-nothing nepotistic offspring of franchise founders like George Halas ruin once great organizations because of their fear of losing control (see also Bill Wirtz and what he did to the Blackhawks), I hope you appreciate what you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Cade Lawson</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10182</link>
		<dc:creator>Cade Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree, what&#039;s aaron supposed to say? &quot;Oh yeah he was nice to my brother has said absoloutly nothing bad about me.... But fuck that dick he&#039;s a bears player!&quot; Because that makes sense.. Its a new league with new players the old rivalry is still there maybe not as intense but its one of those things were random useless slander would put a nasty mark on our franchise. Let the other nfl teams talk all I want from the packers is they stay humble and play ball and talk on the field its barely the first two games once they&#039;ve one a superbowl THEN I say they can talk all the shit they want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, what&#8217;s aaron supposed to say? &#8220;Oh yeah he was nice to my brother has said absoloutly nothing bad about me&#8230;. But fuck that dick he&#8217;s a bears player!&#8221; Because that makes sense.. Its a new league with new players the old rivalry is still there maybe not as intense but its one of those things were random useless slander would put a nasty mark on our franchise. Let the other nfl teams talk all I want from the packers is they stay humble and play ball and talk on the field its barely the first two games once they&#8217;ve one a superbowl THEN I say they can talk all the shit they want.</p>
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		<title>By: MAD City Packer Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAD City Packer Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When ever I am around Bears fans they either do not say anything to me about Football or they are wasted and start giving the Packers praise (as everyone should drunk or sober) but it just doesn&#039;t seem right. It&#039;s like someone killed they&#039;re gold fish in 1986 and they have been sad and accepting that the Bears just suck but they are still a solid fan and ready to defend they&#039;re team if they are once again good. Maybe this is the year...or maybe not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ever I am around Bears fans they either do not say anything to me about Football or they are wasted and start giving the Packers praise (as everyone should drunk or sober) but it just doesn&#8217;t seem right. It&#8217;s like someone killed they&#8217;re gold fish in 1986 and they have been sad and accepting that the Bears just suck but they are still a solid fan and ready to defend they&#8217;re team if they are once again good. Maybe this is the year&#8230;or maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/09/24/remember-when-the-packersbears-rivalry-was-cool/#comment-10166</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players are &quot;1&quot; now.  The guys who want to go psycho can&#039;t.  So they shoot themselves accidently or make it &quot;rain&quot;  Money makes a very dull edge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players are &#8220;1&#8243; now.  The guys who want to go psycho can&#8217;t.  So they shoot themselves accidently or make it &#8220;rain&#8221;  Money makes a very dull edge.</p>
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