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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/04/12/packers-looking-at-running-backs/#comment-4307</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Jurgens

I&#039;m not talking about Pro-Bowls. you guys still don&#039;t get the difference between first and second tier players. No one wins the Superbowl without first tier guys. 

@ Bill

Favre was playing MVP football at the most important position in the game.

@ Ken

I&#039;m not confusing anything. Wolf got his elites from Free Agency; White (10x all-pro) and Robinson (2x all-pro), Trades; Jackson (5x all-pro) and Favre (3x all-pro), and he inherited Butler (4x all-pro).

You all can dispute history if you want to, but without at least one probably two more top level players, the Packers are just a Wildcard team. More good players aren&#039;t going to help that much. The only way you can get top guys anymore is through the draft. Unless you want to give up three first round picks and some mid round picks in a ridiculous (al la Jared Allen) trade.  Trading down and grabbing 13 picks isn&#039;t going to get one. Thompson needs to do what he did last year; mark his impact guy at whatever position he plays and go get him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jurgens</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about Pro-Bowls. you guys still don&#8217;t get the difference between first and second tier players. No one wins the Superbowl without first tier guys. </p>
<p>@ Bill</p>
<p>Favre was playing MVP football at the most important position in the game.</p>
<p>@ Ken</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not confusing anything. Wolf got his elites from Free Agency; White (10x all-pro) and Robinson (2x all-pro), Trades; Jackson (5x all-pro) and Favre (3x all-pro), and he inherited Butler (4x all-pro).</p>
<p>You all can dispute history if you want to, but without at least one probably two more top level players, the Packers are just a Wildcard team. More good players aren&#8217;t going to help that much. The only way you can get top guys anymore is through the draft. Unless you want to give up three first round picks and some mid round picks in a ridiculous (al la Jared Allen) trade.  Trading down and grabbing 13 picks isn&#8217;t going to get one. Thompson needs to do what he did last year; mark his impact guy at whatever position he plays and go get him.</p>
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		<title>By: ken allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy ... you make a point about needing better players, but you&#039;re confusing &quot;quality&quot; players with &quot;elite&quot; players. Not counting RW&#039;s FAs leading up to the SB(s) ... here&#039;s how his drafts matched-up with the idea of needing to have ALL PRO players:
1992 = 13 picks  only Chmura made a PB (3) ... no all pros
1993 = 9 picks  only Brunnel made PB (3) ... no all pros
1994 = 9 picks  Dorsey Levens made 1 PB ... no all pros
1995 = 10 picks  -- Henderson 1PB 1AP (2000 both) / Antonio Freeman  1PB 1AP (1998 both) / Travis Jervey 1PB / Adam Timmerman 1PB
1996 = 8 picks -- Flanagan 1PB / Rivera 3 PB
1997 = 8 picks - Sharper 1AP - 5PB (2000 both)
1998 = 7 picks - Hasselbeck 3PB .. no all pros
1999 = 12 picks -- Bidwell 1PB /  Driver 3PB - no all pros
2000 = 13 picks  -- Franks 3PB / Clifton 1PB / KGB 1PB - no all pros

You need to have solid core players and chemistry more than a couple of players with stand-out talent. Just saying ....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy &#8230; you make a point about needing better players, but you&#8217;re confusing &#8220;quality&#8221; players with &#8220;elite&#8221; players. Not counting RW&#8217;s FAs leading up to the SB(s) &#8230; here&#8217;s how his drafts matched-up with the idea of needing to have ALL PRO players:<br />
1992 = 13 picks  only Chmura made a PB (3) &#8230; no all pros<br />
1993 = 9 picks  only Brunnel made PB (3) &#8230; no all pros<br />
1994 = 9 picks  Dorsey Levens made 1 PB &#8230; no all pros<br />
1995 = 10 picks  &#8212; Henderson 1PB 1AP (2000 both) / Antonio Freeman  1PB 1AP (1998 both) / Travis Jervey 1PB / Adam Timmerman 1PB<br />
1996 = 8 picks &#8212; Flanagan 1PB / Rivera 3 PB<br />
1997 = 8 picks &#8211; Sharper 1AP &#8211; 5PB (2000 both)<br />
1998 = 7 picks &#8211; Hasselbeck 3PB .. no all pros<br />
1999 = 12 picks &#8212; Bidwell 1PB /  Driver 3PB &#8211; no all pros<br />
2000 = 13 picks  &#8212; Franks 3PB / Clifton 1PB / KGB 1PB &#8211; no all pros</p>
<p>You need to have solid core players and chemistry more than a couple of players with stand-out talent. Just saying &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy, If Super Bowls are won by elite players, who were the Pack&#039;s elite when they won there SB? Was it Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Andre (bad moon) Rison, Dorsey Levins, Edgar Bennett or Mark Chumara? I think the Packer&#039;s receiving corp is equal to that lineup. If you want to say Reggie White, I will agree, but that is one player. You need a TEAM playing together to win a SB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, If Super Bowls are won by elite players, who were the Pack&#8217;s elite when they won there SB? Was it Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Andre (bad moon) Rison, Dorsey Levins, Edgar Bennett or Mark Chumara? I think the Packer&#8217;s receiving corp is equal to that lineup. If you want to say Reggie White, I will agree, but that is one player. You need a TEAM playing together to win a SB.</p>
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		<title>By: Jurgens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jurgens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy, heres the thing - I think you&#039;re putting too much stock into Pro Bowls, All Pro voting etc. 

If your team has a terrific season, your players wind up with more post season awards. 

A team with a bunch of good players will always beat a team with a couple so called elite players. The packers have a few holes to plug, but they are already a very good team. Another season like last year, coupled with some success in the post season you will start to see more Packers being warded with &quot;elite&quot; status by the pundits. In my opinion, we already have a few in Rodgers, jennings, Finley, Matthews and Woodson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, heres the thing &#8211; I think you&#8217;re putting too much stock into Pro Bowls, All Pro voting etc. </p>
<p>If your team has a terrific season, your players wind up with more post season awards. </p>
<p>A team with a bunch of good players will always beat a team with a couple so called elite players. The packers have a few holes to plug, but they are already a very good team. Another season like last year, coupled with some success in the post season you will start to see more Packers being warded with &#8220;elite&#8221; status by the pundits. In my opinion, we already have a few in Rodgers, jennings, Finley, Matthews and Woodson</p>
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		<title>By: Packers Could Think Running Back Early in 2010 Draft &#124; PackersFootball.net - Green Bay Packers News and Rumors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packers Could Think Running Back Early in 2010 Draft &#124; PackersFootball.net - Green Bay Packers News and Rumors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/04/12/packers-looking-at-running-backs/#comment-4282</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Kyle

They should use it offense. If they think the guy they are drafting is going to be a game breaker. 

Have you noticed every Superbowl team has three or four players who are one of the top two (maybe three) at their position. When the Packers did it Favre and White were the best players at their respective postions. 

Last year the Super Bowl was Brees, Jahri Evans, and Darren Sharper, the Offensive Player of the Year and two First team All-Pro&#039;s (do you guys even know the difference between All-pro and Pro-bowl?) VS Manning, Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeney, Jeff Saturday, and Reggie Wayne the MVP and two First team All-Pro&#039;s, and two second teamers.

If the Packers want to get to and win a Superbowl. They need elite players. It&#039;s a fact, every year it&#039;s the same. Maybe Rodgers and Finley have a chance to be those guys, but they are not right now. Sorry to hurt your little feelings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kyle</p>
<p>They should use it offense. If they think the guy they are drafting is going to be a game breaker. </p>
<p>Have you noticed every Superbowl team has three or four players who are one of the top two (maybe three) at their position. When the Packers did it Favre and White were the best players at their respective postions. </p>
<p>Last year the Super Bowl was Brees, Jahri Evans, and Darren Sharper, the Offensive Player of the Year and two First team All-Pro&#8217;s (do you guys even know the difference between All-pro and Pro-bowl?) VS Manning, Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeney, Jeff Saturday, and Reggie Wayne the MVP and two First team All-Pro&#8217;s, and two second teamers.</p>
<p>If the Packers want to get to and win a Superbowl. They need elite players. It&#8217;s a fact, every year it&#8217;s the same. Maybe Rodgers and Finley have a chance to be those guys, but they are not right now. Sorry to hurt your little feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Packers Looking At Brian Westbrook &#124; Total Packers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packers Looking At Brian Westbrook &#124; Total Packers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] day after we told you the Green Bay Packers were looking at running backs in the upper part of the draft, it looks like they&#8217;re expanding that search to the free agent [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jeremy you are fucking clown shoes.

driver is getting up there in age so of course his numbers aren&#039;t where they used to be and finley is coming into his third year and he only started one game as a rookie so give him a break. you didn&#039;t even think of rodgers?? really bud?? he finished fourth in the league in both passing yards and touchdowns. besides, their defense went into the playoffs ranked second in the league, so its not like using a first round pick on offense would kill them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeremy you are fucking clown shoes.</p>
<p>driver is getting up there in age so of course his numbers aren&#8217;t where they used to be and finley is coming into his third year and he only started one game as a rookie so give him a break. you didn&#8217;t even think of rodgers?? really bud?? he finished fourth in the league in both passing yards and touchdowns. besides, their defense went into the playoffs ranked second in the league, so its not like using a first round pick on offense would kill them.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy, if you are going to claim &quot;elite players&quot; to be the top @ their position how many of those do expect Green Bay to draft in one year?  Finley&#039;s numbers hurt due to injury,  Jennings and Driver hurt a bit because Rodgers had to worry about not getting sacked every time he dropped back...Judging by the overtime loss to the Cards lack of offensive weapons is not the issue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, if you are going to claim &#8220;elite players&#8221; to be the top @ their position how many of those do expect Green Bay to draft in one year?  Finley&#8217;s numbers hurt due to injury,  Jennings and Driver hurt a bit because Rodgers had to worry about not getting sacked every time he dropped back&#8230;Judging by the overtime loss to the Cards lack of offensive weapons is not the issue</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/04/12/packers-looking-at-running-backs/#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your delusional Vijay.

Jennings and Driver were 27th and 30th in receptions. Finley was 48th. Grant was 11th in rushing yardage and 7th in td&#039;s. That&#039;s good you need those guys too, but Superbowls are won by elite players. None of those guys were even close to elite. Elite is the best or second best player in the league at a particular position. It does not mean someone who played in the probowl because the real elite players had better things to do.

If you want to see Elite look up the first team All-pro guys. You&#039;ll see one Packer there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your delusional Vijay.</p>
<p>Jennings and Driver were 27th and 30th in receptions. Finley was 48th. Grant was 11th in rushing yardage and 7th in td&#8217;s. That&#8217;s good you need those guys too, but Superbowls are won by elite players. None of those guys were even close to elite. Elite is the best or second best player in the league at a particular position. It does not mean someone who played in the probowl because the real elite players had better things to do.</p>
<p>If you want to see Elite look up the first team All-pro guys. You&#8217;ll see one Packer there.</p>
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